tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post5081910393109333024..comments2023-04-02T19:49:29.702-07:00Comments on Greyskull Articles: Why I Resigned my Affiliation with CrossFitJohnny Painhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16751831807982169118noreply@blogger.comBlogger117125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-73296645247318874212010-09-03T05:35:33.150-07:002010-09-03T05:35:33.150-07:00Boom!Boom!Dave Lemanczykhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12513015707868731704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-30058290731948362602010-07-29T06:04:13.876-07:002010-07-29T06:04:13.876-07:00i never wanted to comment here but i just have to....i never wanted to comment here but i just have to. i started XFit about 5 years ago, long before it was even a known entity on the east coast. i never liked Greg Glassman, and after meeting him, i like him less. a very smart man ,indeed, who is a complete cocksucker. Arrogant and rude.<br /><br />anyways, John, nice rant. i have been saying this for years and you couldn't be more on target.<br /><br />also, Zone Diet: dumb. I am a soccer player and if i didn't eat carbs, i'd be useless in the 90th minute. who are their nutritionists? mine is the sports nutritionist at an ACC school. She seems to know her shit.<br /><br />Lastly, I have had to opportunity to work with some of the world's greatest athletes and trainers at a certain facility in Arizona. The quality of trainer and athlete under that roof makes crossfit laughable. They also employ metabolic conditioning but they call it "metabolic conditioning." They also know that programming Fran 3 days before a game is a ridiculous idea. <br /><br />(Meanwhile, i was villified years ago for even bringing up the fact that i thought LaDanian Tomlinson is a better athlete than the guy who won the XFit games. Do people realize LT POWER CLEANS 300#?? His squat is over 550#. Do you think he would even have an isssue with that retarded 135# x 30 snatch workout?)<br /><br />i do wish all the affiliates well, however, they need to understand it's not about the piece of paper that says "certified," it's about really being competent at what you do. <br /><br />Lose the labels. Seek out those who are better, and learn from them.Dan Segelin, CSCShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09373077860728889583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-1161275984711205592010-07-08T14:31:39.221-07:002010-07-08T14:31:39.221-07:00I posted this response somewhere else, but I think...I posted this response somewhere else, but I think it bares repeating here:<br /><br />I say make Crossfit work for you rather than working for them. Doesn't anyone see the value in being both CrossFit and independent? I'm thinking about a gym where CrossFitters can go to get a CF workout, where fighters can go to train for both conditioning and skills (boxing, kboxing, bjj, wrasslin, aikido, etc...), where strongmen can go work on their odd object lifting (truck pulling, tire flipping, atlas stones, sled dragging, etc...), where powerlifters can go to powerlift (deads, squats, glute hams, presses, and all manner of equipment allowing them to do so), where bodybuilders can go to pose in the mirror after every set with their shirts off (... ok, maybe not), where teens can learn and build a resistance training foundation to last a lifetime, where women can go train like they are supposed to: heavy and hard, shit I'm even in support of having a licensed yoga instructor on hand at all times to provide REAL yoga classes for clients.<br /><br />I know what I'm talking about is essentially being everything to everyone, which is nearly impossible, but moderation is the key and I feel strongly that athletes should open their minds to all other forms of training. I spent a month in a CrossFit box and learned some decent stuff, including the fact that full-time CrossFit training is not for me, but that WODs can be used effectively for a ton of clients in a wide variety of ways. <br /><br />In conclusion I can't express sincerely enough the importance of learning as much as possible about every methodology out there, taking what you can use, and tossing away the rest. I can't tell you how many times I've learned something new or received feedback about one of my training programs, and gone back to redesign the whole thing. It's all about learning and adapting. <br /><br />I think because you were involved with CrossFit HQ, that you might have a really bad taste in your mouth. The first time I heard a CrossFitter talking about sipping the fucking koolaid, I nearly shot myself in the face... where are we in Charles Manson's Camp for Serial Killers? But honestly if drinking the damned koolaid gets lazy bastards off the couch, then I'm all for it. When their training program plateaus and they lose some faith in the CrossFit, maybe they'll look to you or I for renewed inspiration and some real personal training.<br /><br />Thanks for the great post.<br /><br />SteveProject Swolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04378858284663317797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-5944443630101858092010-03-30T11:59:17.558-07:002010-03-30T11:59:17.558-07:00This is the best article I have ever read! It'...This is the best article I have ever read! It's just the american way, Capitalize on the "in" thing. Just stay true to yourself, that's all that matters in the end. You can't control what other people are going to do. Let it go or it will eat you up.Danironmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17442470379050920040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-85613191241498125852010-03-14T07:45:58.255-07:002010-03-14T07:45:58.255-07:00Awesome post, man.
I almost had a heart attack wh...Awesome post, man.<br /><br />I almost had a heart attack when you mentioned that Rippetoe used to be hooked up with Crossfit.<br /><br />That's a crazy factoid I'd never heard!<br /><br />Thanks for writing it--it was a great read!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-84547734422339756082009-12-05T21:46:28.183-08:002009-12-05T21:46:28.183-08:00I also hate those shirts with the "I'm a ...I also hate those shirts with the "I'm a badass" cute comments. Real badasses typically display humility, and certainly don't need to brag on t-shirts.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08349280678792313588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-64637179642027933822009-11-24T08:28:54.211-08:002009-11-24T08:28:54.211-08:00Looks like this article was the catalyst to what h...Looks like this article was the catalyst to what happened at the Black Box Summit.<br /><br /><a href="http://robbwolf.com/?p=976" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">The Black Box Summit Or How I Got Fired from the CrossFit Nutrition Certification</a>Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13275664685558526436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-22466530326608879412009-11-18T09:33:15.246-08:002009-11-18T09:33:15.246-08:00Hi there. I have to agree with you and I've be...Hi there. I have to agree with you and I've been saying this all along.<br /><br />The L1 weekend should be an intro weekend to the methodology, not a cert course. Its nuts!!!!<br /><br />Heres how it should be done.<br /><br />Weekend Course. learning about the CF system, theories, metholodolgy, etc.<br />Cert begins at least a week later, and they must have emergency first aid and CPR to take course.<br /><br />Part 1: <br />5 days on body weight exercise and row and running technique. Last day a test, 70% to pass<br />A two week-1 month break to practice<br /><br />Part 2:<br />3 days on O lifting, followed by 2 days of KB. <br />Last day a test, 70% to pass<br />A two week to 1 month break to practice<br /><br />Part 3: 2 days on gymnastics, and 2 days on nutrition. <br />Test given at end, 70% to pass.<br />Day 5 of this week. A full out test demosntrating chosen techniques from all disciplines. And written test with case studies on different levels of clients.<br />Get an L1 cert<br /><br />This is how Krav Maga does it. The cert takes 2 months and 21 days of training in total.<br /><br />This isnt popular with the CF people I have spoken to, because it requires DEDICATION, and actual WORK. But this will give you GREAT trainers, and insurance rates will reflect this. A Can Fit/ACE trainer only has to pay $200.00 a year. Not that Can Fit or ACE is good, buy even it has testing and CECs<br /><br />All affiliates also have to get CECs each year to stay current. Including online test with articles from th CF journal. And keep first aid and CPR current every year.<br /><br />Basically all Affiliates should be great and certified in <br />O lifts.<br />KBell<br />Gymnastics<br />Running and cardio theory, running gate, etc.<br />Basic Nutrition.<br />Business ethics.<br />Basic First aid and CPR<br /><br /><br />The a month laterUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02359817108040094765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-64579392662279011512009-11-16T16:17:27.788-08:002009-11-16T16:17:27.788-08:00The irony in this whole deal is that Greg Glassman...The irony in this whole deal is that Greg Glassman stated that with the system set up the way it is, the good affiliates will, by order of natural selection, take out the shitty affiliates. But it seems to me that the shitty affiliates are so numerous that they are the invasive species here. The best affiliates can only try to fend off the hoards of shit that is infiltrating what they believe in and love, and in the end what happens is the entire system crashes. Its too bad, they have to see it comingDC (Dave Cohodes)https://www.blogger.com/profile/18306694741622174243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-7950175240119857312009-11-08T11:51:48.453-08:002009-11-08T11:51:48.453-08:00I don't belong to an affiliate. I've been ...I don't belong to an affiliate. I've been to a few, tried following a few...Now I do my own programming. As a full time, fully certfied and experienced personal trainer who spent a lot of time and effort getting my cert, I worry about the quality of a level 1's capability to scale, identify problem area's, fix those and program a clients workouts. I don't follow the main site, and with good reason. It doesn't work for me. I'm not experienced enough to be doing Olifts for 1RM. Yet I see some members in my globo gym doing thrusters, cleans and even snatches with Rx'd weights....scary.<br /><br />My first workout at an affiliate, I thought I would get run..but my strength alone put me in the top 2 in their box that day...I had been crossfitting for 2 months...strength and quality movements first..then met con. I plan to open a box within 2 years. But it'll be a lifting gym first and foremost, as it should be.Robbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01596120732604407125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-91006988578624409142009-11-04T12:56:44.870-08:002009-11-04T12:56:44.870-08:00Having faster times on "met-cons" does n...Having faster times on "met-cons" does not mean shit. It simply doesn't. Doing helen, or fran or whatever other gay shit you want to do in a faster time means you can do it faster, not that you are stronger. While doing crossfit there were women who were stronger than me, and no matter what I did I couldn't change that. After I did a linear progression I was much stronger than those women and in general. You see if you get stronger, your "met-con" times will be faster because the weight is lighter for you, as a result of lifting really heavy weight. Thus allowing you go be a huge fag and brag to your cultfit buddies about how you fucking murdered fran. Now on the other side of the fence I'd much rather just be strong, and be able to squat and deadlift 750 and bench 400 by the time I'm a senior in high school, and not ever need to give a shit about my six pack "that has a layer of fat over it" or how fast my helen time is compared to any crossfit gym ratsAndrew F O.Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15688881369491481740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-17725638730008633602009-11-03T14:30:32.579-08:002009-11-03T14:30:32.579-08:00Interesting reading
http://www.irongarmx.net/php...Interesting reading <br /><br />http://www.irongarmx.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5075&start=10875<br /> <br />Here's more from that Parker kid from several pages back in this thread, on the same comments page I linked with the concrete "KBs" above:<br /><br />Quote:<br />"I will make this post and leave the floor to Greg to respond. Thanks to everyone for chiming in. I appreciate the intelligence and care you all showed. No, I did not train or injure anyone including myself, no I'm not Mark Twight (but thanks!), yes it matters VERY MUCH Greg is unfit (he was the original CF'er therefore his "data" is the most precise and has the longest history-and yes the data after his injury is quite pertinent). At my level 1 cert they told me this was an open forum. That was a lie and they (it was Andy Stumpf who said it, in fact) cannot make that claim. I also feel that as I plopped down $1,000 and have never once posted on here, I have a right to do so. Those who don't like my posts can simply move past them, not insult me or tell me to go away. I raised legit questions and got harassed, blocked, and deleted-not to mention the people who saw my questions and completely ignored them, showing a distinct lack of critical thought. Furthermore CrossFit is NOT empirically driven. As stated, CF defines fitness as super-wellness. It has defined metrics to measure super-wellness and I have never once seen any blood panels or those metrics posted, including those of Greg Glassman's. I will not just take what I want from this website and leave everything else when there is the potential to save someone else the cash required to get certified, not to mention the satisfaction of exposing false claims. Yes I know this is getting old, but if someone (someone who speaks for crossfit.com and someone with enough personal knowledge of and experience with my questions) would have simply answered my questions this wouldn't be necessary. To repeat my questions:<br />1. Why my post was deleted<br />2. Why Greg Glassman is unfit (IT MATTERS)<br />3. The Multi-Level Marketing nature of CrossFit<br />4. The lack of "super-wellness" aka fitness hard data (i.e. biological markers-cholesterol, etc.) to support Greg's claims, despite constantly harping on empiricism.<br />So to sum up, no this is not an open forum, no this forum is not open to all opinions and ideas, no CrossFit is not scientific and emperically driven, no crossfit is not a program designed for longevity, and no cf will not express your highest genetic potential. I challenge all of you to unplug from crossfit.com for a week or two, meditate on what I have said, and make your own conclusions. There is, in my opinion, only one conclusion to arrive at after thinking critically on these things. I'll leave that to you though.<br /><br />I have saved all of my posts, so if anyone wants I can post any of them again. Just ask. I await your response Greg! "<br />Comment #106 - Posted by: Park3r at October 28, 2009 7:21 AMAFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06773056214431984476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-29565954695176174852009-10-31T18:42:06.660-07:002009-10-31T18:42:06.660-07:00http://journal.crossfit.com/2009/09/crossfit-pia-g...http://journal.crossfit.com/2009/09/crossfit-pia-grand-opening.tpl#commentsAFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06773056214431984476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-49139411161801644342009-10-30T11:55:52.441-07:002009-10-30T11:55:52.441-07:00Conor,
I too am leaning towards a strength bias w...Conor,<br /><br />I too am leaning towards a strength bias w/ my crossfit programming. Specifically, I am starting to do a slightly bastardized version of Jim Wendler's 5-3-1 program twice a week w/ Backsquat/Shoulder Press/PowerClean on Mondays, and Deadlift/Bench Press/ Power Snatch on Thursday. I think the linear progression will really help my main lifts improve. That said. I was still making progress with Crossfit-stlye programming, going balls-to-the-wall on every WOD or strength day. Strength gains were slow, but my times were and are always improving, as was my strength. I see you guys are almost only concerned w/ strength, and that is fine to have different goals. But I think it is arrogant and foolish to say that a "weak" crossfitter that puts everything into a Met-con workout day after day is wasting there time similarly to your average bodybuilder in a globo gym. <br /><br />There are other fitness domains. And my experience is that every crossfitter sees substantial strength gains for a long time. If there goal is different than yours you shouldn't knock on it. They are happy and their fitness is improving, so there is no reason to bash their accomplishments. And I think it is incredibly rare for a crossfitter to not make strength gains, unless they were a powerlifter turned crossfitter. At every crossfit gym I have been to clients are pushed to hit strength PRs and add more weight to the bar. You have a flawed view of what actually goes on in your average crossfit gym.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12143405419602407801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-30140995316637232532009-10-28T08:14:47.396-07:002009-10-28T08:14:47.396-07:00Wow! I just recently attended a CF LVL 1 cert and ...Wow! I just recently attended a CF LVL 1 cert and am very enthusiastic about continuing to learn as much as possible about CF and be able to train other people.<br /><br /> It's funny that I came across this because I have wondered about the knowledge and legitimacy of some that do and train others in CF.<br /><br />I am almost 42 years old and have been practicing CF for a good year now. I have never felt in better shape. I think it's a great sport and great training.<br /><br />I will definitely be checking out your web site regularly John!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15088336042339942479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-7009653400517461522009-10-27T08:10:14.485-07:002009-10-27T08:10:14.485-07:00Ha, some of you are bringing up "scaling"...Ha, some of you are bringing up "scaling" and I've seen it as a common comment on other blogs in response to this post.<br /><br />If you're a male and you've been "training" for some time and can't full press 135 or hang snatch 95 you're not "scaling the workouts" you're "being a pussy". <br /><br />Have all the cute programming you want, but ultimately you have to add weight to the bar or you're just screwing around.<br /><br />For all their posturing the hardcore wannabes who aren't progressing their training weights are exactly the same as the much maligned bodybuilder wannabes who do 30 sets of arm work and never increase their weights because it "feels" hard.<br /><br />Just because you laid on the floor and threw up doesn't necessarily mean you accomplished anything any more than does the bodybuilder's pump and burn.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14735408566953315313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-34669108103118543382009-10-26T12:01:11.304-07:002009-10-26T12:01:11.304-07:00Maybe you've read this, John. Great article in...Maybe you've read this, John. Great article in the CF Journal...<br />http://library.crossfit.com/free/pdf/CFJ_Handson_DilutingTheBrand.pdfCStreethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04877135906391663742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-77814792519864089332009-10-25T16:31:15.698-07:002009-10-25T16:31:15.698-07:00huey,
Using this as a resource:
http://games2009...huey,<br /><br />Using this as a resource:<br /><br />http://games2009.crossfit.com/competitors/athlete-profile-chris-spealler.html<br /><br />It would indicate that he's at around 2.7xBW Which is no where close to 3xBW. <br /><br />This would leave him shy of the the advanced level of Deadlift via Rip's WL Standard chart:<br /><br />http://www.crossfit.com/cf-journal/WLSTANDARDS.pdf<br /><br />Now Chris weighs less than the max amount (significantly less) for the weight class, but using BW standards is unfair when gross size difference exist between athletes. (See chart for evidence.) Also, no one is trying to portray him as some sort of computer desk jockey. However, compared to other competitors he is weaker in both an absolute and relative comparison.<br /><br />Maximus Lewin,<br /><br />You never answered my questions over at the blog where you accused Ross Enamit of stealing everything he knows from CF. Perhaps you didn't see them. I'll repost it here for you: <br /><br />"Max,<br /><br />More unsubstantiated lies please.<br /><br />Also, how did you manage to plateau at <400lbs DL for a year and a half? I assume you're a grown man. Maybe not per the definition of 70sBig, but more like a medical definition. How did this happen? Were you happy being that weak? Why did you tolerate it for so long? How big are you now? Did you call yourself fit before being able to DL 400? I thought strength is a component of fitness."Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16231186362613990503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-18773979236552629992009-10-23T18:34:18.663-07:002009-10-23T18:34:18.663-07:00"It has been our aim from the beginning to fo..."It has been our aim from the beginning to forge a fitness that is broad, general, and inclusive. Our specialty is not specializing." If your only goal is to get stronger, than obviously CF is not for you. So bashing the community because they can't all meet YOUR strength standards reeks of ignorance. Is it not a huge gain for a guy that could press 75# to be pressing 100# a couple months later? I suppose you could take him from 75# to 200# with your "elite" programming? Every single person that has backed this ridiculous rant has been of the same mindset that strength is king and nothing else matters. Great. Go lift heavy shit and drink your milk and talk about how awesome you are for being able to lift hundreds of pounds while being able to do little else. But don't try and paint CF as some type of inferior trianing program because it doesn't meet your goal of getting as strong as possible. CF never stated to be that type of program. Deal with your issues some other way that doesn't involve making an ass out of yourself on the Internet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-27967669120149678322009-10-21T19:04:44.999-07:002009-10-21T19:04:44.999-07:00I am speachless! That was outstanding, well writte...I am speachless! That was outstanding, well written and well backed (and effing hilarious!) You and I come from the same school John, and what I teach, at my non-affiliated gym, is the sound foundational philosphies, belief systems and "music" that brought me into CF nearly 4 years ago. My clients follow that protocal, there are no choices or exceptions and their are no dicussions about it, not one, ever. <br />Call it crossfit, call it functional training, call it increased work capacity across broad time and modal domains....call it fuckyoufuckme. A side note there, I have asked dozens of L1 certified "trainers", as they regegitate the "increased work capacity" statement showing they "know" CF if they have any fucking clue how long broad time is (ps- for those of you scratching your head and saying "I never thought of that"-broad time= one second to an infinite amount of time) and what a modal domain is (pick an activity, a movement, any one, yes, any backward shotputting rollerblading running cleaning pulling jerking fucking movement (meant literally and for humor.....3 round of ass fucking for time is some of the bs workouts that you were describing early in your post John, I have seen them as well! lol) ---------and not one had a clue. NOT ONE! <br />I agree with you across the board John, and although CF has lost a legit affiliate....it is not about CrossFit, Glassman (also have much respect for the man and owe him a debt of gratitude that I was able to express face to face in Maryland early this month), fuck your Fran time, Fuck your mother shirt wearing MJ's, logos, whiney ass (please stop your fucking whining about E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G) staff, or ANYTHING ELSE whatsoever EXCEPT for ----------(of course you know the answer to that John) the clients successes and prgressions. <br />I highly dout, although this is simply my former mr. contraversey (YOU have taken my title and I dig that about you brother!)guess, that you did not lose a single client when you dropped the CF badge, not one. Because if you(said in the broad sense) are a legitamate amd great trainer(notice that that I said nothing about having L1L2phDL3MDDOCPA after your name and not being able to teach a bloody thing to anyone...not correctly anyway)clients continue to come because of successes they have established by overcoming opposition with your guidance and thier best interest ALWAYS is kept in the forefront of all curriculum, conversations, motivations and the like....not because you have CF label on your window. <br />I thought that since the last time I posted on the main site was the birth of my three month premature son Jackson (who is strong, healthy and beautiful), I would crash your party for a few minutes, toast and knuckle up before my exit......<br />Keep up the good work, thank you for a great and entertaining read and God bless!<br />~JroCk~craigslist itemshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14203844905287212479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-53318457386992460882009-10-21T15:40:00.436-07:002009-10-21T15:40:00.436-07:00@pete@crossfit Bath
Um, Speal hit 375 DL at games...@pete@crossfit Bath<br /><br />Um, Speal hit 375 DL at games, which is almost or in excess of 3x bodyweight. To most reasonable standards of "strong", that's pretty strong. <br /><br />Perhaps your meathead can't compute.hueyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14282005569500658284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-20377534912442855752009-10-21T06:31:38.370-07:002009-10-21T06:31:38.370-07:00I've been doing Crossfit for a year and have t...I've been doing Crossfit for a year and have the unbelievable luck to be based in Flagstaff, AZ with Lisa Ray. She is world class, Period.<br /><br />This post HAD to happen. Any movement that starts out in a garage and gains momentum will dance with EVERY aspect of selling out, money, posers, and losing quality.<br /><br />Think of crossfit as Punk. Indie Rock. Rap. At one moment a truly revolutionary form, at the next, a way to gain sales in Wal Mart.<br /><br />If HQ can engage this conversation and do something to TOUGHEN the standards, Crossfit can morph into a hugely successful, yes - mainstream - way of life that started out in a garage. It can remain revolutionary and still grow.<br /><br />If HQ lets anyone with a level one cert continue to open a box, one day we will see news articles of injuries, death and lawsuits. That will certainly shake it up.<br /><br />Either way, the play between staying true and growing into a multinational business is normal. Let's embrace the growth, understand we can't stop it, and make our OWN practice impeccable!Eileen Schreiberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00723812213826035490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-86303563766381954802009-10-20T09:34:55.246-07:002009-10-20T09:34:55.246-07:00Spot on explanation! I'm a strength coach and ...Spot on explanation! I'm a strength coach and have been using functional training/ oly lifts/ strongman/ and "crossfit" exercises for years, and I am almost sick by the current vanity and popularity of crossfit. It has become a new fad with many posers and it sucks for those hardcore knowledgeable members. It's very much like this p90x craze... if you are fat and lazy and do ANYTHNING constantly for 90 days you will see results! I'm highly irritated by people's ignorance that anyone that walks into a gym knows what they are doing. I'm not gonna have a dentist do my eye surgery and an optometrist pull my cavities! Seek out a trained professional with REAL experience and education. As well, great point on the weaklings... I'm only 175lbs but I can easily hit 200 percent on any big lifts... who cares if someone has an 8 pack if they crumble like a coffee cake. I'm amped up now, gonna go lift something heavy! hahaJohnny Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10110446021083287343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-76896066216319266352009-10-19T10:45:42.219-07:002009-10-19T10:45:42.219-07:00An idiotic rant ... at best. I suspect it's j...An idiotic rant ... at best. I suspect it's just a smokescreen b/c he's losing to a competitor and HQ won't do anything about it. Why don't you just become a better gym and let the results speak for themselves?<br /><br />Say Hi to the Thundercats for me.InfidelSixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11326801366997473902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4798333847859971722.post-80617126148237121852009-10-17T19:43:52.651-07:002009-10-17T19:43:52.651-07:00I think overall, you have some good points. But, a...I think overall, you have some good points. But, a lot of people that have responded with the "The market will sort out the bad ones, etc" are also right to a certain point, too.<br /><br />While we are young compared to many affiliates, I feel like we offer a great program, including the strength training, oly lifting, gymnastics, endurance, etc. But, maybe just because we feel like offering those other disciplines is fundamentals, doesn't mean that other affiliates care to add quality. <br />I care about how many members we have, but I also know that the members we have come back to us and refer their friends because we offer better quality than they will get somewhere else.<br />The scary thing is that there are people I know of that have gotten their L1 cert and plan to open affiliates, and they have no business doing so anytime in the near future. Why? because they see dollar signs and they want to pose off CrossFit. They can't do the strength programming or specialty training that the good affiliates do, but they can program ridiculous chipper wods every day that will tear people down.<br /><br />Now here's the point several people have made in argument: if you don't like it, be part of the solution. John, I absolutely respect your decision because it sounds like you've made it with good intentions. Personally, I would like to fix the problem from within because I love CrossFit, I love running an affiliate, I love making people strong and fit and I love the way I feel at the end of the day knowing that I gave my personal best to everyone that walked in the door. Have you ever suggested any of these ideas to HQ (hopefully in a non-confrontational way) as a means to try to help increase the quality of affiliates without making it unattainable to those trainers who really are great trainers?<br /><br />just a thought...and good luck to you with whatever you do and wherever you go from here.<br />Sarah Lewis--Combat CrossFitAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com